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Post by p3r50n on Jun 26, 2008 16:20:01 GMT -8
well its not litterly dry its just... not sweet, its bitter.
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Post by Your Silent Protector on Jun 26, 2008 16:50:42 GMT -8
oh. do you like it?
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Post by p3r50n on Jun 26, 2008 16:59:00 GMT -8
well i do like white wine better. O and i have had a pink wine before. It was somewhat fruity. They leave the skin on when they make the wine insted of taking it off.
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Post by Your Silent Protector on Jun 28, 2008 20:40:53 GMT -8
hm. well, thank you, MAster Brice, for the riveting lecture on fine wines. XD
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Post by p3r50n on Jun 28, 2008 21:51:19 GMT -8
Your so welcom, Young Grasshopper. *Gooooonnnng *Bows
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Post by Penguinchao on Jun 30, 2008 14:40:59 GMT -8
A Plugged in review that compares the positive and negative elements of Corey Taylor's 2 bands
Stone Sour vs. Slipknot...
"I tried to jump off the balcony of the eighth floor of the Hyatt on Sunset [Blvd.] on Nov. 14, 2003," says Corey Taylor, frontman for Stone Sour and Slipknot. "Somehow [my wife, Scarlett] stopped me. It wasn't the first time I tried to kill myself, either."
For anyone who's paid attention to Slipknot's lyrics over the last decade, Taylor's confession likely comes as no surprise. The famously masked metal outfit's songs have often been long on rage but desperately short on anything that approximates a reason to live.
With Scarlett's help, though, Corey turned a significant corner—even leaving alcohol behind—three years ago. "I took a good, long look in the mirror and hated what I saw," he says. "And that was it. I haven't touched a drop since." Equally significant is the singer's recent revelation that despair isn't all it's cracked up to be: "I came to the realization that I'm far more interested in doing good than bad. I'm more interested in helping people."
Apparently, a band with the name Slipknot wasn't the most natural context to air this nascent altruism. So it's been Stone Sour that has provided the space for Taylor to vocalize his evolving view of life's sorrows and joys.
My Other Band Is Parked in the Garage Stone Sour (named after a thingytail) might best be described as Corey Taylor's other band. In actuality, it was the Des Moines, Iowa, native's first rock group. Taylor and drummer Joel Ekman formed it in 1992 and added on Slipknot guitarist James Root in 1995. Stone Sour broke up in '97 when Taylor left to join Slipknot; Root followed a year later. As far as Slipknot is concerned, the rest is history. But in 2002, Stone Sour reformed and recorded its self-titled debut, which peaked at 46 on Billboard's album chart.
A sophomore release, which landed in August, has enjoyed higher visibility. Its first, emo-sounding single "Through Glass" (which shot to the top of Billboard's Mainstream Rock chart) showcases a sensitive side of Taylor that's rarely (never?) seen the light of day in Slipknot.
"I'm looking at you through the glass/Don't know how much time has passed," Corey sings, "Oh God, it feels like forever, but no one ever tells you that/Forever feels like home, sitting all alone inside your head." He asks a simple question, but resists the simple response: "How do you feel? That is the question/But I forget you don't expect an easy answer." Another line confronts those who would stereotype him ("So while your outside looking in, describing what you see/Remember what you're staring at is me").
No Longer Kneeling Before Nihilism "Through Glass" isn't the disc's only positive moment. The opener, "30/30-150" finds Taylor growing weary of the nihilistic, self-destructive perspective that's marked Slipknot. "I saw a lot of people die in the end/I never wanna walk that road again/Now I will never give up—I don't want to have it all/I just wanna have enough." Lyrics like that display an emerging perspective about Taylor's place in the world. More internal grappling about the meaning of life turns up on "Cardiff," in which Taylor seems to be coming to the end of himself ("My flesh is all I have, my face is happenstance/... This life is not enough, this life is not enough").
"Made of Scars," a survivor's ode to the wounds that have shaped his identity, concludes, "I guess I should be glad I'm not dead." Similarly, "Socio" admits, "My chest is tight, no, I am not all right," then rightly asks, "Why does it have to be this way?" Taylor sings like a man who's lost ... and knows it: "I don't know what's wrong/It's like I'm too far gone/... Fear is in my heart, just when I stop, it starts/And I can never live this way." Where Slipknot might have responded to such emotions with rage or despair, Stone Sour seems more willing to voice these questions and feelings honestly without demanding answers.
The album concludes with "Zzyzx Rd.," where Taylor expresses his determination to move out of confusion ("I'm over existing in limbo, I'm over the myths and placebos") and move toward the people who love him: "I'm ready to live with my family, ready to die in obscurity."
F-Bombs Away Unfortunately, some of the things we've come to expect in Slipknot's work also appear in Stone Sour's. Positive themes are cratered by frequent f-words and other vulgarities. The title track's political screed against the president rants, "The only problem is your f---in' rhetoric/We're more in danger now than before you took power." Practically waving a "Don't Tread on Me" flag, "Hell and Consequences" warns, "If you don't want an enemy, don't f--- with my life." "Reborn" ends with Taylor repeating a particularly harsh f-word variant—perhaps a concession to any Slipknot fans concerned that Stone Sour might have gone too soft.
Likewise, the Slipknotian specter of death haunts "Your God," which flirts with the end of the proverbial rope. "What am I supposed to do now?" Taylor asks, "How am I supposed to live?" Good questions. But they're followed by a despairing answer: "All I ever did was try, but the story ends, so I guess I'll have to die."
The Complicated and Twisted World of Metal I guess all of that obvious contrast turns Stone Sour into what we commonly call a mixed bag: positive insight and even hope for the future sown with the tares of poisonous perspectives. To play around with a double negative, it seems that not going to the extremes to which "those other bands" do (Slipknot in this case), doesn't a righteous metal act make. In this sense, Stone Sour offers a good example of why careful analysis is so critical when it comes to evaluating metal.
In a nutshell then: Throughout the history of heavy metal, hopelessness and alienation are the messages that have risen to the top. Amid the darkness of this genre I've seen a few bright spots. And in between are bands such as Stone Sour, whose honest exploration of life's questions is nevertheless scarred with profanity and anger.
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Post by p3r50n on Jun 30, 2008 19:46:14 GMT -8
Well thank you Master Christian for you fine knowlege of Slipknot and Stone Sour.
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Post by Your Silent Protector on Jul 1, 2008 14:07:46 GMT -8
Indeed. Wow, that was really interesting. I actually read it all. XD
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Post by p3r50n on Jul 1, 2008 20:55:28 GMT -8
Yes amayzimgly i did to. And why did you post it christian?
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Post by Your Silent Protector on Jul 3, 2008 16:40:01 GMT -8
i was glad he did. it was nice to know.
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Post by p3r50n on Jul 3, 2008 18:21:40 GMT -8
yeahs, i guess.
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Post by Penguinchao on Jul 5, 2008 0:42:30 GMT -8
its part 4 of 6 in a history of metal on plugged in...by the way...when it comes to music and games dont go to plugged in they give one-sided reviews Random fanart from rocktoons rocktoons.com/slipknot/index.02.html
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Post by Your Silent Protector on Jul 10, 2008 13:59:16 GMT -8
as in, htey say the games you like are bad?
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Post by p3r50n on Jul 10, 2008 15:11:47 GMT -8
yeah prety much
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Post by Your Silent Protector on Jul 10, 2008 17:59:05 GMT -8
heh. to be expected.
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Post by p3r50n on Jul 10, 2008 21:55:38 GMT -8
like res4 or halo3 (even though i enjoy playing them)
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Post by Your Silent Protector on Jul 12, 2008 16:22:47 GMT -8
lol i cant IMAGINE wat PIO wud say
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Post by p3r50n on Jul 13, 2008 11:31:45 GMT -8
PIO?
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Post by Your Silent Protector on Jul 13, 2008 15:01:05 GMT -8
Plugged In Online.
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Post by p3r50n on Jul 16, 2008 21:00:25 GMT -8
... im retarded
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